Vampire Lord
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Aindrias
I wouldn't normally jump in on a debate such as this but...
CVA says NBSI in Providence/Lowsec leading to Providence is Piracy, that's there stance.
They don't say 'NBSI everywhere is Piracy" even if they believe it, they don't say it because they couldn't enforce it anyways. So IAC being NBSI for the time being due to their current issues in their own space outside of Providence is "OK" and being friends/neutral with CVA is fine.
CVA is staying all those corps/allliance helping U'K atm, Establishment, Outbreak, Evoke, BUMs, etc are shooting neutrals IN PROVIDENCE/CVA space who are not involved with the U'K/friends vs CVA/friends War (which I love it btw, it's fun!  )
So lets put this together in very simple terms.
NBSI in Prov/surrounding lowsec = Piracy to CVA
The Estab, Outbreak, Evoke, BUMs, etc are NBSI'ing in Prov so they = Pirates
(even though by definition... they're privateers (no, not the Alliance) because a sovereign alliance is enlisting them against another sovereign alliance... re: Sir Francis Drake).
The difference I see here is simply:
U'K is enlisting the help of corps/alliance who practice NBSI or other forms of random shooting/piracy e.g. Outbreak, Evoke, The Estab, BUMs in other areas of space.
CVA is enlisting the help of those around them that practice NRDS, Sylph, NOS, and other corps like PIE, Aegis Militia, Etc... who all reside near and in Providence.
Further, IMHO, this war was escalated not do to naked acts of aggression by CVA, but when U'K and IO were actively trying to gain sovereignty in the QBL Pocket of Providence by POS Spamming after they supposedly thought NOS was building a station there. CVA and NOS, for apparent reasons, did NOT want that to happen. This proved to CVA and NOS that U'K/IO at the time were escalating the conflict beyond the fun skirmishes prior. Right after that happened, IO stepped out of the picture leaving U'K by itself and op for attack... So I personally blame this whole thing on IO.
Yay for a history lesson.
All fine and good, but to those who didn't know that, NOW YOU DO
If you're KOS in Prov, expect to be attacked by all alliances/corps until your get yourself off that list.
MAYBE that clears things up. I for one don't see U'K as pirates, but enemies of war.
Further, NOS has always come with what they can when asked by CVA, but I think it's a bigger TIME ZONE thing with that.
Aindrias
You've just made a mistake sir. Would you like IO to come back to NOS space an finish pounding your crippled alliance back to empire were you belong. Do you really think a bunch of care bears should be pointing fingers at anyone politically knowing they can't defend themselves? Now were likely to come back an start blowing up you & your assets while your big sister is busy. Don't think because we've been away we've not been watching you. Your little history lesson should also reflect that fact that your alliance lost pretty much all there fighters due to the empire & 0.0 space beating it was taking. Note that IO numbers changed because we gave people a choice join one of the two corps or leave. Note that most of the hard core Killers/Capital pilots are still in IO. You have just become a target because of your stupidity
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